I want to bring extra context to my last post as it pertains to contradictions and inconsistencies in mythology and storytelling. In the crucial words of Bokencamp himself...

2021.12.03 04:17 TheDonald1 I want to bring extra context to my last post as it pertains to contradictions and inconsistencies in mythology and storytelling. In the crucial words of Bokencamp himself...

This is just more context to add to my previous post for those who simply think the writers are sloppy, bad and/or lazy when it comes to keeping the mythology straight, or simply just do not care about honest storytelling. (Character development is a completely separate issue on its own because that deals more with the “middle” of the show not the “end game”). Hence this reason to try to explain the obvious contradictions in mythology especially from the first half of the series to the latter half, and even between seasons 3 and 4.

  1. Red told Liz her parents loved each other very much in connection to Liz’s moral battle over abortion/giving up her child vs adoption, but Katarina telling Kate in Requiem the only person she loved was Masha, but not Liz’s father, allegedly
  2. Or Red in 3.14 telling Liz her mother wanted her father back and for them to be a family after what her father did though in 8.21 Katarina is seen trying to call off the affair as opposed to wanting Raymond back and fighting for them to be a family
  3. Or Minister D (6.09) telling us the money used to frame Reddington was the $6 million that was wired into a Cypriot bank account known to work with Soviet intelligence, but Rassvet and Nachalo stated it was the $40 million that was used to frame Reddington
  4. Or Katarina writing in her diary the only person she was honest with was Raymond, and yet she allegedly went behind Raymond’s back in the Minister D tape and was the same man who could allegedly be heard accusing Katarina of spying on him and finding out all these activities Katarina was secretly doing behind his back that showed she was never on his side in the 2.10 flashbacks of the fire
  5. Or Naomi telling Red Jennifer at the end of 2.04 she didn’t know where Jennifer was and had decided to walk away years ago because she was afraid Red would come again for her, but Jennifer telling Red in 5.20 it was her mother who walked away years ago to protect Jennifer so Red could not come back again for her
  6. Or Nachalo contradicting itself in more ways than one. One of which showed Katarina first stating she only stayed at the Tacoma Park house for “one weekend” while Carla was away, (“I even helped watch Jennifer one weekend while she was away), but Raymond says soon after they had essentially both stayed at the Reddington household (Tacoma Park house) more than once before (I believe the exact line was “Well, we can make that work. WE’VE DONE IT BEFORE”)
I know there are others to add, but this list serves my point.
And of course my prime example from last post showing the clear contradictory nature of Katarina’s actions according to Red in 3.14 wanting Raymond back and for them to be a family, but in the Minister D tape from season 6 she chooses to inform Fitch about Raymond and Masha compelling Fitch to make Katarina choose between two impossible resolutions in regard to what to do with Raymond. Effectively negating her plans to want Raymond back and a family.
However, something that believers of the poolazy/bad writing argument in relation to the mythology and storytelling, and the writers can’t keep the story straight or do not care to narrative, should account for the following…
As Bokencamp stated in the past, which is crucial when forming any theory of the show and analyzing it, especially when noticing clear contradictions and inconsistencies regarding major details:
It’s more of a bible now. Occasionally, if we bump up against something like, ‘Does Liz speak Russian?’ — we have to go back to the bible to keep it straight and to be on point with exactly what the backstory is.
We’re very religious about being honest and true to the mythology of the show, the origins of it, and where we’re planning to go. So, yeah, we’re meticulous about the mythology and maintaining the bible that we’re adding to, and checking against it to make sure we’re not contradicting ourselves in the storytelling.
What I’ll say about the trajectory of the show and where it’s going — and where it’s been going since Day 1 — is that we do have a grasp on who these people are, how they’re interconnected, and what the agendas are. That, of course, shifts at times, and adjusts just because of the nature of doing 22 episodes of TV each season — and we don’t want to get there too quickly.
WE’RE FORTUNATE TO KNOW WHERE WE’RE GOING (think of this in the context of those who think Fauxarina was originally intended to be Lotte’s Katarina until last minute plans changed) and fortunate to have SMART WRITERS on staff who are keeping us in line with that. I DON’T THINK WE COULD TELL AS COMPLEX A STORY OR AS EMOTIONAL A STORY IF WE WERE JUST WINGING IT.”
I would also take note on JB describing the story he was telling as being complex, meaning it is not the simple story many want to make it out to be, and that there allegedly is not that much to the plot or it is not deep. It is also a term along with the phrase “over analyzing” that is commonly prescribed to those of us in the Daddygate and Carlarina camps who are accused of making the show more complicated than what it actually allegedly is. Even though what I believe my theory camp does is try to bring a rather unique degree of creative simplicity in combination with logical solutions to what is by definition and admission a complex story, by Bokencamp’s own words. And the fact that the story is as complex as it is I actually believe demonstrates the carefully crafted and defined nature of the show and the amount of detail that was incorporated into the story. I also find it ironic that some of those who accuse us of “fanfic”, the newest accusation that evolved from the “over analyzing” accusation, are some of the same persons who also believe the show is not that deep, carefully written and complex, in spite of Bokencamp’s admission.
And I also think that we can safely conclude from his testimony that because he and his team had placed a strong emphasis on accuracy and honesty that the contradictions in mythology that have been observed numerous times can logically be explained in that those contradictions were intentionally and knowingly written into the script to try and fool the audience or see who is paying close attention. And at the end of the series the actual mythology will come together through an honest and sincere narration when the time is right. And material from the earlier seasons will add up to stuff shown in the latter seasons. Otherwise the whole purpose of an end game would be pointless in this case and the earlier seasons were a waste, which would also by default imply the writers early on wasted their time writing heavily involved scripts that were destined to be retconned.
And it is because this show by definition has an end game that means by default later as well as earlier details need to be equally accounted for because the concept of a “bigger picture” is important here. And I think the writers want you to question things that do not make sense and do not add up, at least for the consistent casual/follower and diehard viewer. Or they just count on those in the audience forgetting about key details from the earlier seasons, or the first half of the series, the casual viewer. Or it is a combination of both since both kinds of viewers exist especially with this kind of show. But for the non diehard viewer it is easy to forget little or early details.
This is why I also think much of the later mythology contradicts the earlier mythology. An intentional calculation.
Because I think this show is designed for both kinds of viewers, though I think it is a treasure chest for the diehard viewer since this is not the kind of show you can watch on and off without falling behind. This is in large part because of the procedural aspect of the show. And I find it funny how I have seen arguments from some people who claim the show was only meant for the casual viewer (some of the same people who claim the story is not that deep or carefully written) even though it is easy to fall behind with the show, which means in order to keep up with what is going on one at minimum needs to be a consistent casual viewer and the diehard viewer is by default in the better position and has the upper hand in understanding the story. Meaning the show was definitely crafted for the diehard viewer who enjoys analyzing the show.
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2021.12.03 04:17 claeryfae My experience getting sterilized.

So many posts here today, my heart is breaking to see the amount of fear so many of us have about forced birth. I have always had a pathological fear of pregnancy, like full blown nightmares about it. I always knew I'd never be a mother for a number or reasons like breaking the chain of familial trauma and abuse as well as having a genetic disorder. In 2018 I was able to be sterilized and I really, really hoped that I was just dealing with my own phobia and not being prescient about these abortion rights being stripped from us. I never post but I feel like the knowledge I gained through this experience might be helpful right now.
I went to my surgeon asking for a tubal ligation and she told me that she doesn't perform them due to the chance of spontaneous healing was too high, instead she prefers to do a full tubal removal. Its not a hysterectomy, and it leaves your ovaries intact also so there's no loss of hormone production. She told me it also slashed my risk of ovarian cancer, as it usually starts in the tubes before spreading.The procedure was outpatient, I went home the same day. It was also laproscopic so I only have three small scars, barely noticeable.
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